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Roger Evans stated that a trustee tabled a carefully drafted letter about public, aggressive approach to funding negotiations with the Department of Health. Mr Evans believed that the way the letter was drafted made it clear that if the Department of Health did not accept the terms he would have no other choice but to resign.

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Roger Evans understood that it was suggested photographs of beneficiaries' homes should be taken.

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When chair, Roger Evans had concerns over beneficiaries being essentially subjected to a means test.

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The adoption of "exceptional circumstances" as the principal criterion for assessing grant applications occurred without first seeking approval from the board and "exceptional circumstances" were never precisely defined.

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Roger Evans stated in his oral evidence that the NSSC had become bureaucratic in its approach to assessing applications. He described the NSSC as having introduced some of its own criteria to the decision-making process.

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There was enough dissatisfaction with the process among beneficiaries that it reached Ailsa Wight at the Department of Health who referred to it in an email to Roger Evans.

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When chair, Roger Evans, recognised that aspects of the system were "humiliating and intrusive" and "the whole thing was not the right way to go about it".

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During oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans incorrectly asserted that the Macfarlane Trust needed to obtain money (reserves) from the Department of Health. This was later corrected the following morning in oral evidence to the Inquiry.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans suggested that the Board of the Macfarlane Trust became more "relaxed" after two individuals left and that he was being "quite firm on certain issues".

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that while he was chair of the Macfarlane Trust they tried to be "consistent and transparent" with regard to the allocation of monies to beneficiaries.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that "there was some significant dissatisfaction between about 2012 and 2014 of the decision-making approaches of the NSSC" on behalf of beneficiaries.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that the Macfarlane Trust Office Guidelines did "not have to be followed to the letter".

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that with regards to means testing the Macfarlane Trust was not only interested in individual income but also taking a "common sense" approach.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that he saw no reasons why the full new guidelines for grants document was not given to beneficiaries.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Elizabeth Carroll explained that she met Jan Barlow a "couple of times...after partnership meetings...but it wasn't a frequent thing for us to meet".

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that he met with Ms Barlow and Liz Carroll for "a very informal catch-up", that he had met the latter at events like APPG meetings but that he had never had a formal meeting with her.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that he got the impression from Jan Barlow that her relationship with Liz Carroll was not "a particularly comfortable one".

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Elizabeth Carroll explained that the Macfarlane Trust was legally advised to make a retraction and issue an apology and that they accepted this course of action due to the "risk to the charity in terms of cost".

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Roger Evans explained that lawyers became involved "in order to get a retraction of the wrong allegation which she'd [Elizabeth Carroll] made" in a letter and that he knew that he didn't say what she purported.

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In oral evidence to the Infected Blood Inquiry, Elizabeth Carroll explained that she remembered "quite clearly that Ms Barlow said, when we were talking about the Penrose Inquiry reporting, that it would be sensible for the Government to delay their response to the Inquiry -- to the Penrose Inquiry because more people would have died and there would be less money to pay".

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